I read alot about companies going through and coming back to life as another entity with the same Directors and same people working there you know the scenario – con men?
I’m undecided sure there are alot of companies out there that do it regularly and repeatedly so yeah sure there are some scum bags in the double glazing industry, but surely no one sets out to fail -Do They?
I read other blogs and think what are we achieving, some companies have worked for years to build a brand and through economic conditions can no longer trade, some people would say bad management and they should of seen it coming, but how do you run a company in the current climate, if you’ve been trading for quite a few years and you need to downsize quickly you can’t just lay people off, there’s consultations for employees and redundancy payouts and if you’ve had people working for you for a long time this can run into tens of thousands of pounds, which inevitably would for most companies make it a non viable proposition.
If the companies go to speak to an accountant about the issues they inevitably tell the companies to liquidate and shed the staff to get the government to pay off the redundancies. Some MDs are loyal to there workforce who let’s face it alot of the time wouldn’t care who they worked for. Some MDs are just incredibly nice people, but do NICE companies survive in rocky climates or is it the structured ruthless companies that survive, people complain about Anglian, still surviving, Management style: profits first, employee second.
SOME people are good people that get into bad situations, other people are scum bags, should they all be labelled with the same thing and should they both be put into a category of not to be trusted?
The scum bags should shut up shop, but should th nice guys be sent into the world as failures? I feel annoyed sometimes as I feel all companies are labelled the same if they fail they are all deemed as bad as the guy who does it as a regular thing.
My company was formed when another company went through, that company went through due to alot of factors, MD too nice didn’t want to lay people off costs got to high got taken for money, and went through.
Should this be the same as someone who runs up huge bills takes loads of deposits and then folds, other companies just start other companies leaving the other one live and wait for their suppliers to wind them up, which alot don’t do because it would cost them money to do it.
I suppose what I am saying are there legitimate phoenix companies? Or are we all Scum bags and should be labelled as such.
Hi DDG
I realise this is a topic close to your heart. I recently wrote an article about a guy who is a legitimate bad guy who has regularly phoenixed businesses, and actually bragged on my site that he does cash jobs etc. He is not allowed to trade, but he has found loopholes in the system to start again. He’ll cause upset to customers, employees and suppliers again, because he isn’t capable of running a business successfully.
Others will cease trading over the coming months without a doubt, and many will be hardworking people who tried their best to avoid a business failure. Some of these individuals will start up again and make a real success of the business, second time around, because they will learn from previous mistakes. Many of the greatest businessmen in the world have failed at some point. We all fail at times, which is only human.
You are one of the most genuine people I have met in the double glazing industry, and are in it for all the right reasons. I feel very confident that you will make a lasting success with your company.
All the best.
RCG
Thanks for those kind words RCG. It is really close to my heart as I have seen the pain first hand when a company goes that was a long and established brand. The failure you feel is devastating you think about twats that really fleece people and don’t care and they always seem to be the ones flashing their cash about.
That guy on your site was a total scum bag with no moral fibre I am always open and honest with people who come to me about advice on windows and conservatories sometimes to my companies own detriment They ask me a question and I’ll give an honest answer.I.E. PVCu would spoil the look of your property, I must be dull!! Other companies would say of course it suits your property, take the money and leave the customer feeling crappy about their purchase.
Can you be too nice to be in business, I’m not saying I’m a walk over I just like people to be really happy with our service in all areas.
My company will be a success I’m sure it’s just I hate being pigeon holed by scum bags in this area, who have gone through at least twice if not more telling people they should “WATCH OUT IF DEALING WITH ME” now I do take that personally.
Every company locally to me have ceased trading and started back up with in the last four to five years. Heronhurst say in business since 1992 (Crap) New company formed 2004, everyone is out there for what they can get and rather than selling on quality and service, they just choose to slag other companies off.
And I’M SICK OF IT. So watch out you local guys I’m on my way..